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オートトレーサー専用スレ

1 :名無し:2001/08/01(水) 01:37
AAEv2.00でついたオートトレーサー機能の活用スレッド。
どうすれば上手く変換できるか。
変換したあとどう手を加えれば美しいAAが作れるか。
こんなに上手く変換できたよ!
などなど書き込もう。

AAEはこちら
http://geroimo.virtualave.net/aaesp/
AAEスレッドはこちら
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=963090135

2 :亙重郎:2001/08/01(水) 01:43

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   |   ∵ /__/ /   < 黄色いお空へブンブンブン
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3 :基本:2001/08/01(水) 02:14
AAE起動

オートトレーサー

絵を読み込む

変換実行

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4 ::2001/08/01(水) 02:21
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5 : :2001/08/01(水) 02:40
                                   
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尚、オートトレーサーの注意書きにもあるけど、
ハイカラー以上の設定にしないとだめみたいよ。
たとえば、どうせAAはモノクロだから、元絵もモノクロでいいと思って
モノクロ画像にしたりすると、真っ黒に認識されたりするよ。

6 : :2001/08/01(水) 02:43
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実は書き文字つくるのに便利だったりして。
顔文字板より、モナー板で使えそうな気がしてきた。

7 :TEST:2001/08/01(水) 02:46
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8 :geroimo:2001/08/01(水) 02:46
>>5
ハイカラーっていうのは画像データの話じゃないです。
Windowsの設定です。
トレースする画像はあらゆる形式のBMP,GIF,JPEGを読み込めますが、
AAEはそれを一度フルカラーのBMPに変換してからAAに変換しています。
フルカラーのBMPに変換する際に、256環境だと支障がでるんです。
だからハイカラー以上の設定にしてください。って事です。

まぁ今時256色環境じゃHPもマトモに見れないから問題ないとはおもいますが。

9 : :2001/08/01(水) 02:50
>>8 でも殆ど同じ絵なのに、モノクロで書いた絵は真っ黒になったよ
 (カラーで>>5を書き直した)。ソフトはペイント。

10 : :2001/08/01(水) 02:55
実行エラー53とか出たんですけど。。。

11 :作品集:2001/08/01(水) 02:58
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=994518024&st=160&to=161&nofirst=true
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=982640291&st=589&to=590&nofirst=true
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=963090135&st=601&to=603&nofirst=true
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=963090135&st=644&to=644&nofirst=true
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=963090135&st=647&to=647&nofirst=true
かちゅ使いも&nbsp;が見えちゃうのでクリックすべし。

12 :geroimo:2001/08/01(水) 03:06
>>9
モノクロで書こうがフルカラーで書こうが同じ絵なら
AAEがフルカラーBMPに変換してからだから関係ないはず・・。
うーん、なんでだろう。
わかんないけどフルカラーで上手くいくならそうしてくださいw

>>10
AAEをダウンロードしなおしてみてください。
たぶん何らかの手違いでtrace21.exeが無くなってると思われます。

13 :TEST:2001/08/01(水) 03:10
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14 :名無し:2001/08/01(水) 03:12
上手く変換できないのを張るのはやめようや…

15 :( `.∀´):2001/08/01(水) 03:25
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16 : :2001/08/01(水) 03:28
縦90%くらいに調整しないとたてに間延びするよん。

17 :保田圭:2001/08/01(水) 03:31
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18 : :2001/08/01(水) 03:39
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19 :ななしさん:2001/08/01(水) 03:41
変換したあとは&nbsp;置換と行末スペースの削除を忘れずにネ。
両方ともAAEでできるヨ。

20 :10:2001/08/01(水) 03:43
>geroimoさん

使えました。ありがとうございます。

21 :ぐぉ:2001/08/01(水) 03:52
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22 : :2001/08/01(水) 03:53
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23 : :2001/08/01(水) 03:54
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25 : :2001/08/01(水) 04:07

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26 : :2001/08/01(水) 04:13
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27 : :2001/08/01(水) 04:20

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28 : :2001/08/01(水) 06:06
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29 : :2001/08/01(水) 09:13
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30 :(*゚Д゚)さん:2001/08/01(水) 10:51
>>23は手書きでしょ?

31 : :2001/08/01(水) 12:21
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32 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/01(水) 17:01
PNG対応きぼんぬ。

33 :名無しさん:2001/08/01(水) 21:05
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34 :sonic:2001/08/01(水) 23:06
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35 : :2001/08/01(水) 23:17
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36 :名無しさん :2001/08/01(水) 23:52
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37 :(*゚Д゚)さん:2001/08/01(水) 23:55
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38 :test:2001/08/02(木) 00:18
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43 :作者:2001/08/02(木) 07:58
見てのとおり横線に弱いので縦線の多い絵のほうがうまく変換できます。
それから、下絵に写真を使う場合はあらかじめモノクロに加工しておいた方が
よいです。

線画が一番綺麗に変換できると思いますが、線の太さは3ドット位が
ちょうどいいでしょう。

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46 : :2001/08/02(木) 10:46
>>44-45
うーん...手軽すぎる...
しかしなぁ...
これはこれでいいか。

47 :セルフィー:2001/08/02(木) 12:02
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51 :(*゚Д゚)さん:2001/08/02(木) 12:40
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52 :(*゚Д゚)さん:2001/08/02(木) 12:47
http://piza.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=983895183&st=81&to=81&nofirst=true
↑前に作ったぷちこのトレース。 >>51、それと同じ絵のオートトレース。
機械には負けたくないなあ…

53 :(*゚Д゚)さん:2001/08/02(木) 12:51
>>52 リンク訂正。
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=983895183&st=81&to=81&nofirst=true

54 :ななし:2001/08/02(木) 14:16
>>52
十分勝ってるよ。

55 :名無しさん:2001/08/02(木) 14:23
勝った、負けたと言うより、別種類という感じもするけど。

むしろ機械の健闘が目立つな。お手軽一発作成の割に。

56 :名無しさん:2001/08/02(木) 14:24
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57 :geroimo:2001/08/02(木) 15:12
フム・・。
AAE側にモノクロ加工機能をつけてみるかな・・。

58 :名無しさん:2001/08/02(木) 17:36
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59 : :2001/08/02(木) 18:19
確かに黒が多い気もしますね…>>57

60 :名無しさん:2001/08/03(金) 04:14
>>42 >>45
うつくしい・・・。
手書きAAと張り合える。

61 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/03(金) 17:17
でも使ってみて、実際苦しいのは
・適した素材選びがムズい
・後で手直しするのが結構大変(1から作るほどじゃないけど)
というわけで、そうそう手軽ってほどにもいかないと思うが、どうだろう?

62 :サ骨:2001/08/03(金) 18:14
きょうみぶかぁい。

63 :名無しさん:2001/08/03(金) 22:22
なんかオートトレースなりにテクがいりそうですな。
画像の調整に気を使うか。線も太くしないとね(縮小してから拡大してみるとか)。
縦90%にするのも忘れがち・・・。

64 :名無しさん:2001/08/03(金) 22:23
目玉のでかい萌えキャラ系が向いているかな。

65 :test:2001/08/03(金) 23:26
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66 : :2001/08/03(金) 23:36
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67 :名無しさん:2001/08/03(金) 23:43
行末スペースは削除してねん。

68 : :2001/08/03(金) 23:43
画像をドラッグ&ドロップできるようにして欲しい。
>トレーサー

69 : :2001/08/03(金) 23:46
メリットあるかなぁ・・・。

70 :名前いれてちょ:2001/08/03(金) 23:48
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73 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/04(土) 23:47
私も試してみました。
元絵はイラストレーターでちょちょっと起こしました。→http://203.174.72.112/rio-baragi/jpg/test.jpg
まったく修正せず、変換したママです。
意外と再現性が高いと思います。
こう言う線画には、威力を発揮するかもしれません。

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74 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/05(日) 00:14
某所で出したコレも実はオートトレーサーです。
元絵は同じく落書き程度の線画ですが、
目のあたりとかは見れたものではないですのぅ...

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75 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/05(日) 00:18
ちょっと補足。
>元絵は同じく落書き程度の線画
これは、「私の書いた」元絵が落書き程度ということです。
>>73さん、誤解したらすいません。

76 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/05(日) 01:33
ところで、横線解析時、微妙に斜めな横線が、
''''||||....
こう言う風に左上からの斜め線になってほしいところが、
....||||....
という風に変換されてませんか?文字の上のほうに点がある
文字を使うべきところで、 . にされてるケースが結構多くて
つながっていない線があると思います。気のせいでしょうか?

77 : :2001/08/05(日) 03:22
age

78 :太田:2001/08/05(日) 09:11
黒ベタの部分を「 l (アルファベット小文字)」じゃなくて
「 | (半角縦線)」にしてみるのはどうでしょう?
あるいは黒ベタを「 : (半角コロン)」にして、白黒の境界線を
通常の文字で書くとか。

ツールでは細かい部分の表現に限界があるのは仕方無いとしても、
塗りの部分を改良すると良いかも、と思ったりします。

79 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/05(日) 10:38
こういうのは太田さん好きそうやなぁ

80 :作者:2001/08/06(月) 00:06
>>76
点の位置を考慮して評価するように作り変えてみましたが
今度は全体的に品質が少し下がってしまいました。
いろいろ試しているけど今のところ今公開されているものが
一番平均的に綺麗に作れます。

>>78
l(L)は幅3ドット、|(半角縦線)は4ドットなので
より黒いl(L)の方が選ばれるのです。
このプログラムは、ベタか線かを認識して処理する等といった高等なことは
やっていないので残念ながらそこまでのことは出来ません。
(力不足のためこの先できるようになることもないと思います。)

期待に沿えなくてすいません。
線画に限定すればもう少し綺麗に出来るのですが…

81 :名無しさん:2001/08/06(月) 02:30
比較対象文字をもっとおおくしたら?
AAEのパレットに入ってるの網羅とか。
そうするとべた塗りは■とかになるのかな。

82 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/06(月) 22:02
素朴な疑問なのですが、どうやって線を文字に変換してるのですか?

83 : :2001/08/06(月) 22:27
>>82
アスキーアートエディター作ってみました
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=963090135&ls=100

を見てごらん。

84 :作者:2001/08/07(火) 12:55
                                                 
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85 :作者:2001/08/07(火) 12:59
線画向けに改良しました。
変換には今までの数倍の時間がかかります。
これでよければgeroimoさんにバージョンアップしてもらうつもりです。

86 :太田:2001/08/07(火) 22:47
現在地点とその周囲のドットを調べて、同一ドットならベタ、
そうでなければ境界といった感じにしていくのはどうでしょう?
現在地点と1つ左のドットを比べるくらいなら出来そうな感じもするけど、
それだと斜め線の判定が難しいか・・・うーん

87 :saki:2001/08/08(水) 00:15
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90 :あああ:2001/08/08(水) 00:18
>>87-89
びみょー。

91 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/08(水) 05:17
線画向けの強化は大歓迎です。
人物等は手で書いたものにはやはりかなわないと思いますが、
背景にうまく使えると良いなあと思って期待しております。

92 :作者:2001/08/08(水) 13:48
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93 :ななしちん@815:2001/08/08(水) 14:46
↑これなんか大きいの作る時の質感表現の参考になるかも

94 :太田:2001/08/08(水) 21:58
>>92
むむ、よく見るとかなりグレードアップしてますね
ベタ(小文字の L )と縦線( | )の区別がしっかりしてる・・

95 :サ骨:2001/08/08(水) 23:01
                                     
                                     
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96 :サ骨:2001/08/08(水) 23:07
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97 :サ骨:2001/08/08(水) 23:12

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100 :名無しさん:2001/08/10(金) 00:48
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101 :ただいま……:2001/08/10(金) 02:31
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103 :名無しさん:2001/08/11(土) 15:08
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104 :名無しさん:2001/08/11(土) 15:08
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105 :名無しさん:2001/08/11(土) 15:09
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106 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/12(日) 06:41

>>73の絵 http://203.174.72.112/rio-baragi/jpg/test.jpg  をそのまま何も変更せず
バージョンアップしたオートとレーサーにかけてみました。
まったく修正せず、変換したママです。
元絵の線がちょっと太めなせいか、前より再現性が落ちてしまったような
気がします。オートとレーサーにかける前に、元絵の線の太さを調整しないと
いけませんね。細ければ細いほど良いんでしょうか?

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107 :ちょっと質問を。:2001/08/12(日) 11:33
オートトレーサーにかけて、出来たものを「処理」で編集画面に送ると
絵がずれてしまうのはなぜですか?
オートトレーサーのAA画面ではちゃんとしてるのに…。
コピー&貼り付けでも駄目でした。
バージョンは2.01です。

108 :(゚д゚)y-~:2001/08/12(日) 11:38
リアルタイム2chシミュレーターでみてるかね?

109 :名無しさん:2001/08/12(日) 11:48
>>107
オートトレーサーで変換しただけだと半角ダブルスペースを使ってるわけ。
それを編集画面に送ると、AAEの「半角ダブルスペース抑制機能」が働いて
ダブルスペースを全部削除するわけ。
だからずれるわけ。
どうすればいいかというと、「半角ダブルスペースを& nbsp に置換」機能を使えばいいわけ。
そうすればエディタ上ではズレズレだけどブラウザでは綺麗に見えるAAになるわけ。

110 :いまいち:2001/08/12(日) 14:14
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111 :試しに・・・:2001/08/12(日) 15:38
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112 :107:2001/08/12(日) 16:52
& nbsp の処理をしたらエディタ上は大変なことになってしまいましたが…。
要はスペースの調整をすればいいのですね。わかりました。
ありがとうございます。

113 :日本語が不自由な名無しさん:2001/08/12(日) 16:58
>>112
スペース調整っていうか・・・。
AAEのダブル半角スペース抑制をOFFにすればエディタ上でもずれないで表示されるよ。
でもそうすると今度はブラウザですれるわけよ。

たしかに「& nbsp の処理をしたらエディタ上は大変なことになってしまいましたが…。」と、なるよ。
でも、それはエディタ上だけで、ブラウザではちゃんと表示されるわけ。
エディタ上で大変な事にならないようにしちゃったら、ブラウザでずれるわけ。
みんなに見て貰うわけだから、ブラウザでちゃんと表示される方を優先しよう。と。

114 :名無しの見習い:2001/08/12(日) 17:13
>>112-113
漏れの場合、うまくAAを描くコツとして
リアルタイム2chシミュレータを同時に開いて
見ながらドット調整しているがどうよ?
当然、AAEのダブル半角スペース抑制はONのままだよ。

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116 : :2001/08/13(月) 00:59
W半角spを「ff」に変換する機能もドット調整用についてる。

117 :作者:2001/08/13(月) 11:40
線の太さは1・2ドットくらいに合わせて調整されています。

元絵が線画でない場合は
http://www.sppd.co.jp/product/jtrim/
このソフトで輪郭抽出して反転するとちょうどよいです。

118 :102:2001/08/13(月) 19:44
>>116
そうそう、それです。その機能に気づいて直しました。
いや、生意気にも手直しなどを加えてみたいと思ったもので(藁

119 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/15(水) 12:07

背景にオートトレーサーを使用し、キャラは自分で作った物を重ねてみましたです。
ちょうど、手書きとちょっと横線などのタッチが違っているところがキャラをうまく
浮かせてくれているようで私的には良い感じです。

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背景とキャラを合わせるのがとにかく大変でした。自動で出来るような何かがあると
いいなあ・・・。

120 :リオ・バラギ:2001/08/15(水) 12:08

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121 :リオ・バラギ ◆bfqolrWI:2001/08/15(水) 13:34
上の二つはもちろんオートトレーサーの出力を少々修正して使用しています

122 :ななしさん:2001/08/15(水) 13:43
これはスゴヒッage

123 :作者:2001/08/15(水) 22:47
このように使っていただけるとはありがたいです。
しかしかなり大変そうですね。
>>120のようなタイプならそれほど手間もかからなさそうで
使えるかもしれませんね。


それにしても>>103-105ってよく出来てるなぁ。
明らかに変換ミスと思われるところもあるけど。

124 : :2001/08/16(木) 18:43
モーニング娘。の矢口真里です。(マジ)


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125 :(*゚Д゚)さん :2001/08/16(木) 22:00
>>120
うーん。木が美しい...
確かに人物−風景に描写の差が出るのはいいカモ...

126 :( ´∀`)さん:2001/08/17(金) 14:15
>>124黒人のジャズボーカリストかと思た

127 :むずかしい。:2001/08/18(土) 08:09
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128 : :2001/08/18(土) 10:13
>124 怖い・・・(節約のためアンカータグ自粛)。

129 :momo:2001/08/18(土) 11:59
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130 : :2001/08/22(水) 02:44
あげ

131 : :2001/08/22(水) 05:00
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132 : :2001/08/22(水) 08:19
コレじゃないか?よー知らんが・・・
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=998370963

133 : :2001/08/22(水) 23:07
>>131 わしの行きつけのパブのママに似てる。

134 : :2001/08/23(木) 04:49
>>131
イッセー石田?

135 :_:01/08/28 16:45 ID:DZJGhBRU

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137 :リオ・バラギ ◆bfqolrWI :01/08/30 12:29 ID:.tTk5X3U
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138 : :01/09/01 02:49 ID:b2RS2HNk
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(・∀・)イイ!

139 :作者:01/09/06 01:14 ID:OCUrugkI
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141 : :01/09/06 01:36 ID:pJCI.Vv.
>139-140
。。。これってオートトレースなの。。。?
線の繋ぎ方に癖があるとは言えすげえ。
おいら、AA製作側だから心境複雑だけど、ここまでの
水準に引き上げた努力は、素直に賞賛しちゃう。

142 : :01/09/06 09:29 ID:ScSvkZX6
>139-140
なんだか幾何学的ぽくってスゴイ!
これもまたひとつのかたちだね。

143 :ななしさん:01/09/06 11:05 ID:dhsXiSfw
スゲッ
作風がかなり変わってるね。

なんか剣がめちゃくちゃ刃こぼれしてみえる…。

144 :お兄ちゃま:01/09/08 08:19

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145 :イルカをやってみました:01/09/09 08:38
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147 : :01/09/09 09:27
>>139-140
これ作ったオートトレーサーは公開されへんの?

148 :test:01/09/09 09:29
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149 :トレーサー:01/09/09 09:39
>>147
公開しないで欲しい・・・

150 : :01/09/09 11:06
>>149
え、なんで?

151 : :01/09/09 12:30
トレースでしかAA作れん人の意味がなくなるから・・・
半分マジ・・・

152 :作者:01/09/09 23:39
刃こぼれしないバージョンが完成したら公開するかも(w

153 : :01/09/10 00:32
早く公開して欲しいかも。

依頼スレを見ると、手書きでコンパクトに作ったAAより、
トレーサーでざっくり描いたAAの方がうけがよいでしょ。
だったらオートトレーサーが、そのレベルに達していたら、
時間の節約になる分、そちらの方が優秀な訳で。。

>139-140のワルキューレなんて、難があるのは目だけで、
もう充分実用に耐えると思うよ。線だけのトレーサー使用
AAより、こちらの方が質感があって、好みだったりするし(w

154 : :01/09/14 13:55
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155 : :01/09/14 13:58
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156 : :01/09/14 14:04

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157 :名無し:01/09/14 14:05
>154
そうだよ。

158 :ななしさん:01/09/14 14:30
>>156
それは違うと思われ。

159 :名無しさん:01/09/19 21:20
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160 :名無しさん:01/09/19 21:20
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161 :名無しさん:01/09/19 21:21
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162 : :01/09/19 21:38
どう表現してよいものか・・・

163 : :01/09/19 22:14

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165 :ななしさん:01/09/20 00:57
あげとくか

166 :作者:01/09/20 17:44

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といっても実態はフォントファイル"font.txt"を書き換えただけ。

167 :カチューシャ:01/09/20 18:05
>>159-161

168 :作者:01/09/21 17:44
やはり斜めの線に角が立ってしまってますね…
最新版では大分ましになってます。

169 :ななしー:01/09/22 05:14
このツールすごい!
期待あげ!

170 :3:01/09/22 06:13
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172 :ななしさん:01/09/22 13:03
>>170-171
なんで旧バージョンなん。

173 :旧バージョン:01/09/24 02:54
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175 :NAKA:01/09/25 02:53
マナーとしてオートトレーサーで作ったAAはオートでやったよ、っていうことを隅っこにでも書いておくといいと思います。
まぁ見ればオートでやったのはわかると思いますが、
そういうのが「(・∀・)イイ!」とか賞賛されるとAA職人の方々はあまりいい思いをしないでしょうから。

176 : :01/09/25 03:59
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178 :NAKA:01/09/25 04:16
いや、このスレではさすがに言わなくてもわかると思います(^^;
でも実行してくれてサンクス。

179 :新Ver.にて:01/09/25 23:00
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181 :sage:01/09/30 14:06
>175
賞賛目的でAA作ってるような奴は職人じゃないでしょ
文章に矛盾を感じる

182 : :01/10/01 00:22
そうか?

183 :ななしちん:01/10/01 00:43
芸人?(w

184 :(*゚Д゚)さん:01/10/01 01:06
暇人でしょ。模写ばっかだし。
おれモナー。

185 :(*゚Д゚)さん:01/10/01 23:08
そうだな。模写を職人と呼ぶのはちょっと抵抗がある。

186 :名無しさん:01/10/02 03:44
模写って言うけど紙に鉛筆で絵を書くのとは全然わけが違うんだよ。
AAを書くっていうのは絵を書くのとは別の技術が必要とされるから
その技術に対して職人という言葉を使うんだと俺は思う。

187 :(*゚Д゚)さん:01/10/02 05:06
自分で作っていて、大した技術と思わないから、
自嘲して暇人なんだが。
AAを作るのにもっとも必要な技術は、暇な時間を
見つける技術だからな。

188 :(*゚Д゚)さん:01/10/02 13:23
>187
自分の作ってるトレースがヘタレなのをもってして、顔文字板にある
全てのトレースAAを大した物じゃないと言い切れる君の厨房臭さは
すごいものがあるよ。自身の狭い世界だけで通用する論理を外の
大きな世界に簡単に当て嵌める事の出来る、その厨房気質は得難い
物だから大事にしていこう。

189 : :01/10/02 14:00
>>188
187は別にトレース作品とは言及してないし、大したことないと言っているのは
自分の技術のことのようにも取れるから、それは言い過ぎではないの?
(ちなみに模写っていうのは言葉の意味からして非トレースのことだよね。
トレースなら複写っていうのが相当なはずだし。)

どっちにしても、本当に上手い人のAAはヘタレな自分から見たら技術的にも
素晴らしいものがあるし、職人と呼ぶに相応しいものだと思う。

190 : :01/10/03 16:18
とりあえずみなさんAA作りましょうよ。
でないとソフト開発者の方に申し訳がw

191 : :01/10/04 16:12
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192 : :01/10/04 23:21
あの〜AAEのオートトレーサで画像読み込めないんですけど
なんででせうか?

193 :ななしさん:01/10/05 11:24
>>192
AAEすれの757か?
マルチポストはいかんよ。
それから質問が漠然としすぎ。
読み込めないっていうは具体的にどう読み込めないのか言いなさい。
たとえば、開くを選んでもダイアログが出てこないとか、
ダイアログは出てきてファイル選択できるけど、絵が表示されないとか、
絵を選ぶとエラーが出るとか、ただ漠然と「画像が読み込めない」って言われても、
おぢさんわかんないよ。
具体的に言えば分かるかっていうと、そうとも限らないけどね。

194 : :01/10/10 16:19
保全レスですです。。。

195 :_:01/10/12 19:29
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197 : :01/10/15 21:24
オートトレーサーの進歩は別に悪いことじゃないと思う。
オートトレーサーで出来ることならわざわざ手作業でやる必要がないってだけの話で。

198 : :01/10/15 22:03
>197
それはAA作ったことのない奴の感想。

199 : :01/10/15 22:04
出来たものだけに意味があるんじゃなくて作る楽しみってのがあるんだよ。

200 : :01/10/15 22:47
>>198,199
いや、作ってますよ。
作ってる課程の楽しさってのもわかります。
ただ、複写や模写などを重ねていくと同じ作業の繰り返しの部分って
結構出てくると思うんですよね。
線を繋いだりとか。

そういう単純作業は機械に任せてもいいんじゃないでしょうか?
足りない部分だけこちらが補完すれば済むのですから。

201 : :01/10/15 22:55
そういう機械的な単純作業もすべてひっくるめて作る過程で、作る楽しみ
ってのがあると思うんだが、まあ、考え方は人それぞれだよな。

202 : :01/10/15 22:58
ただ、作る楽しみってのを全く知らない奴がオートトレーサーみたいに
機械の一発変換でAAを作るとなると、恐らくはすぐ飽きてしまうんだろうね。

203 : :01/10/16 01:31
>>200みたいな人は恐らくこの板をメインにしている人ではないか、
作る目的は賞賛目当てなのでしょう。
(言っとくけどそれはぜんぜんOKだよ)
自分はオートトレーサーが依頼する人を満たすぐらいのできになるならその方が
いいですね。
無意味なスレッドも建たなくてすみますし。
こうやってみるとホント人それぞれって感じですね。

204 :not 200:01/10/16 01:53
>>203
前半の憶測は余計なり。
最後の一行は同意なり。

この板メインで、賞賛目的でもないが、ツールAAは好きだべ。
今まで見た中で、一番感動したのは、もぢえで作られたレーニンだべ(w
ただし、出来の悪いツールAAを貼られると、でかいだけに鬱陶しいベ。

実はえなりも好きだべ(ボソ
いい加減見飽きたけど。

205 :どれみたんハァハァ:01/10/16 02:30
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206 :どれみたんハァハァ:01/10/16 02:32
凄いね、このツール。
線画をそのままオートトレーサーにかけてみたが、
ここまでアスキーアートで再現できるとは。
いやあ、開発者は偉大だ。

207 :200:01/10/16 08:35
204殿とほぼ同じです。
実際のところ、賞賛目的だけでわざわざAAを作る人はそういないと思いますが。

208 : :01/10/17 23:51
age

209 :顔文字ワッショイ!:01/10/18 00:02
ケーキを作るのにスポンジを買って来て生クリームやフルーツで
飾るのが好きな人もいれば、
粉をふるったりしないと作った気にならない人もいる。
セットになっているものを混ぜればできるもので満足する人もいる
って事ですよね、
何処が楽しいのかなんて決めつける事はできないし
お互いの邪魔にならならないなら自由に楽しみましょう。

210 : :01/10/22 15:30
hozen

211 :_:01/10/23 01:37
ここの職人さん、頑張って下さい♪

212 : :01/10/23 02:53
http://piza2.2ch.net/test/read.cgi?bbs=kao&key=989644592
このスレオートトレーサーが賞賛浴びてるぞ。

213 :・・・:01/10/23 03:02
>>212
何がしたい、もっと張りつけろとでも言いたいのか?
そうでないならほっといてやれ。

214 :(@@;):01/10/23 19:23
今AAEをDLしてオートトレースを試してるとこなんです。
画像読み込みまでできますが、変換ができません。
直感と言われても、わたしにはその直感がありません。
どのようにすれば変換できるのか、教えていただけないでしょうか?
よろしくお願いします。

215 :どれみたんハァハァ:01/10/23 20:11
>>214
AAにしたときに線が潰れないように大きな絵を描くといいよ。
あと、変換できないときは24bitカラーにするといいらしい

216 :(@@;):01/10/23 20:43
>>215
どうもありがとう。
まことに申し訳ありませんが、私のようなバカにもわかるように
手順など教えていただければありがたいのですが…。
お手すきの時で結構ですので、なにとぞお願いします。使いたいんです!

〈 スミマセンスミマセン...。 〈 コノトオリデス!
   ∨ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄  ∨ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄
  (;´Д`)             ヾ
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   〉 〉           ノノZ乙

217 :どれみたんハァハァ:01/10/24 04:51
グラフィックツールはフォトショップを使っています。
用語は適時、自分の環境に合わせて読み替えてください。
画像はBMP,GIF,JPEGを読み込めますが、最終的にはオートトレーサー側で
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[パソコンの設定]
・画面のプロパティ -> 設定タブで色数をHighColor(16ビット=1677万色)以上に

[下絵を描く]
・横1400x縦1200ぐらいの大きさでスキャン
・縦のみ90%の長さに縮小
・縦横を半分のサイズに縮小してゴミを飛ばし、線を滑らかにする
・モノクロ画像(黒と白だけの画像)に変換
・目立つゴミを消しゴムで消してから、24ビットBMP形式で保存

[AsciiArtEditor(Ver.2.11)起動]
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・変換ボタンを押し、変換が終わるまでしばらく待つ
・変換が終わったら、処理 -> 編集画面に送る
・編集 -> 行末スペースの削除
・テキストファイルとして保存
─────────────────────
[注意]
・線の太さは1・2ドットくらいがいい
・サイズが小さいと目や口が潰れる
・背景つきの写真は真っ黒になる可能性がある

・元絵が線画でない場合はJTrimで輪郭抽出して反転
ttp://www.sppd.co.jp/product/jtrim/

・減色ツール、Padie
ttp://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA013060/software/padie/index.htm

218 :(@@;):01/10/24 09:03
どれみたんハァハァ様ありがとうございます。
さっそく使ってみます。(・∀・)THX ソーマッチ

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220 : :01/10/28 11:35
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221 : :01/10/31 00:28


222 : :01/11/02 10:26
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223 : :01/11/03 10:21
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224 : :01/11/04 10:21
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227 : :01/11/06 00:09
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229 : :01/11/06 00:11
>>226-228の解説

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230 :まーちゃん:01/11/06 03:27
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231 : :01/11/13 11:54


232 :無臭性:01/11/15 19:28

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233 : :01/11/15 20:28
かなりイイ!!
線が凄く上手く出てるね。

後、顔なんかの細かい部分を手書きしていけば
結構良い作品ができるんじゃない。

234 :行末スペース消してほしい。:01/11/15 22:14
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235 : :01/11/15 22:21
>>234 AAメジャーを使うのじゃ
ttp://www42.tok2.com/home/hekomuyo/

236 :下絵を拡大:01/11/15 22:24
                                                      
                                                      
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238 :これって、おもしろいね。:01/11/15 22:29
ラインに味がある。
使うキャラクタを絞ったりとか、加えたりとか、
カスタマイズもできるようにしてほしい。

239 :ななしさん:01/11/15 23:38
行末スペースならAAEでそのまま消せるだろが。

240 :235:01/11/15 23:43
>>239 ホントだ今まで気が付かなかった ごめんなさい

241 :作者:01/11/16 00:28
>>238
同梱の"font.txt"を開いてみてください。

242 :わがままなユーザ:01/11/16 08:05
>239
>240
>241
いろいろありがとー。
これは、AAE自体そうなんだけど、
>>232
>>234
>>236-237
です。
トレースをかける範囲選択する機能と
元絵の縮尺を変更する機能があると良いと思います。
それとオートトレースした物を編集画面に送ったあと、
元絵を読みこむと微妙にずれているのがこまりんぼです。
またいろいろ使ってみます。

243 :ななしさそ:01/11/16 14:07
>>241
"font.txt"開けてみたけど、文字の削除はともかく追加の編集を手でやるのは相当きついっす。

244 :_:01/11/16 17:46
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245 :ミ゚Д゚彡:01/11/16 18:32
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247 :名無しさん:01/11/16 20:42
頼むから、人物は名前がわかるようにしてくれ

248 :_:01/11/16 20:49
244は魚だろ。

249 : :01/11/16 21:37
>232は顔も髪もそこそこ見れるけど
他はあんまりだね。特に顔。
顔に空白の多いキャラの方が向いてるのか?

250 :桔梗(犬夜叉):01/11/16 21:45
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251 :名無しさん :01/11/16 21:55
>>249
元絵と見比べるとわかるのだが、
顔も細かく見ていくと手書きだとけっして思いつかない
結構使える表現を出していたりする。
元絵をみながら手直しすると結構いけると思うよ。
変換後の絵がAAEでピッタリ元絵に重なってくれると
手直しもしやすいのだが。

あとは、ドットじゃなくてラインとして認識するアルゴリズムが
今は恐らくないと思われるので、それが組み込まれるともっといけるのかな。
いずれにしても初期バージョンでこの出来は賞賛ものでしょ。

252 : :01/11/16 22:16
>251
顔の修正に限って言えば、
>246ぐらいのサイズなら
トレースはしてもしなくても
あまり変わらないような気がする。(俺の経験)

むしろ、体のラインのようにトレースをする利点を生かせる
大きな形は修正の必要がないぐらい上手くできてると思う。

”トレース”はピクチャートレースのことね。

253 : :01/11/16 23:05
>250は歪んで見える・・・原作知らないけど。

254 : :01/11/16 23:36



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257 :_:01/11/17 00:40
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多子化に難点は顔特に目ですな。
あとはラインの癖は味があってむしろ良いと思うよ。服の感じはとてもイイ!

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264 :  :01/11/17 13:37
なんだか松本大洋の絵の様な質感ですね。
面白いなぁ。

265 ::01/11/17 16:49
絵が大きすぎてかきこめない・・・

266 :桔梗(犬夜叉):01/11/17 21:35
>250を手書きで直してみた。
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おそらく私の画力の問題かと...

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しかしこの機能はすごいですね。

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284 :_:01/12/03 01:36
目を手動EDITしたのですね。

285 : :01/12/03 04:32
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286 :ななしさん:01/12/03 17:11
>>285
うーん、萌えキャラよりこういうのがいいね。
オートトレーサーに向いてる。
ギザギザしててもあまり気にならないし。

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288 ::01/12/03 19:35
>387
すえぞうっすね

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292 : :01/12/05 08:22
実写の人物とかはどう?

293 :人物やってみた1/2:01/12/05 20:27
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295 : :01/12/05 21:20
>>293-294

296 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/06 05:32
>293-294
誰?

297 :名無しさん:01/12/06 05:44
なまえ書いてくれ〜
誰だかわからん

298 :人物やってみた:01/12/06 08:14
100回のKISS 松浦亜弥 です

299 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/06 08:32
100回のKISS 松浦亜弥 ← 誰?

300 : :01/12/08 02:29
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これをJTrimで2階調化後に24bitBMPへ。
もすこし工夫すればもっと綺麗になるのかな。
良い素材加工手順があったら教えてね。

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303 :一発で判るオレ逝ってよし:01/12/08 06:41
>300−301の元絵は加賀美ふみをっぽいけど、どうだろう。

304 :作者:01/12/08 14:20
>>all
使ってくれてありがとう。
やはりJTrimで幅1ドット程の線画にしてから使うのが一番だと思います。
細い線でないと変な文字を使ってしまいますから。

使い道がないかもしれないけど
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それぞれ
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305 :AA素材の加工:01/12/08 19:52
>>304
うぉ。作者様ですか!
タノシイツールをありがとうございます。
そっか1ドット幅のほうが良いのですか。
太い線の方がいいのかとおもってた。
オートトレースアルゴリズムもほぼ完成の域かもしれませんが、
更なるVUPにも勝手に期待してます。
製作(が続行中ならば)頑張ってください。

>>303
鋭い(w
マンガ家、原画家HPで素材探ししてて見つけました。
元は加賀美ふみをのオフィシャルHPのものです。

306 :太田@AAメジャー作者:01/12/12 23:23
http://www42.tok2.com/home/hekomuyo/aameasure.jpg
自分でも作ってみたけど・・・見事に撃沈(w
改善の余地ありまくりです。

307 :作者:01/12/14 00:01
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変換させて見ました。
なぜかベタがグレーに…おかしいなぁ

>>太田さん
変換にかかる時間はどのくらいですか?
また線画の場合にはどんな感じになるのでしょうか。

308 : :01/12/20 11:07
ただ保全するのもなんだから・・・

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309 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/20 14:57
ドラえもん?

310 : :01/12/20 15:06



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311 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/20 23:37
ス、スネちゃま?

312 ::01/12/21 18:08
インストーラー付消えてるよ〜
再アップおねがい

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314 : :01/12/22 00:50
こうして見るとチョット可愛いな

315 : :01/12/22 01:31
おーととれさーで作られたのって、近くでみるとギザギザジャキジャキって感じだけど、
離れてみると超綺麗じゃない?

316 : :01/12/22 02:39
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317 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/22 07:50
>316
たっ、剛?

318 :目は手動:01/12/22 10:22
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319 :おそるべきAAEr:01/12/23 14:09
こわいな〜。
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320 : :01/12/25 00:01

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322 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/25 07:33
>320-321
のびちゃん?

323 : :01/12/25 09:29
>>311 >>317 >>322

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326 :( ´∀`)さん :01/12/27 03:45
>324-325
>コテハン野郎は逝ってよし

おまえのことやんけ

327 :p2231:01/12/27 05:50
既に新ジャンルに進化しつつあるな。良き哉、良き哉。

328 :(*゚Д゚)さん:01/12/29 19:47
 

329 :  :02/01/02 02:30
あらら、書き込み潰えたか。

330 : :02/01/02 06:34
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331 :?(;´Д`)ハァハァ:02/01/04 06:00
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334 :ナチケットじいさん:02/01/04 12:06
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335 :太田:02/01/05 21:46
>>307カメレス
文字そのものの白黒と比較しながら変換しています。
変換テーブルとか使ってません。(w
線画は試してませんが、白か黒か、くらいの判断しか
できないかと思われます(苦笑)

336 :ハジケ ◆IKwBjB.g :02/01/09 00:12
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337 :ハジケ ◆IKwBjB.g :02/01/09 00:16
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338 :ハジケ ◆IKwBjB.g :02/01/09 00:40
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339 :( ´∀`)さん :02/01/09 04:23
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340 ::02/01/09 19:06
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341 : :02/01/09 21:22
QOOだな。目細めればわかる

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